Game Shop of Horrors
Aujourd'hui, nous allons parler de boutiques de jeux vidéo.
Fût un temps où je vivais en Amérique du Nord, où les magasins de jeux vidéo n'étaient pas si diversifiés qu'on pourrait le croire. L'entonnoir a continué à se resserrer, et les franchises se sont évidemment bouffées entre elles. Et comme toujours, moins de concurrence, c'est plus de raisons de garder les doigts là où le soleil ne brille pas : prix fantaisistes, moins de services, vendeurs potiches… Parfois, quand une chaine en mange une autre, elle décide de lui laisser son nom au lieu de standardiser tout le monde sous la même enseigne – les gens ont une impression de concurrence. Exemple typique, GameStop dévore EBGames, mais ces derniers existent toujours. Certes, ils ont le même argus et les mêmes méthodes, mais qui verra la différence, mmhh ?
Pour comprendre la suite, il vaut mieux avoir lu les deux articles qui racontent la vie d'un vendeur de jeux vidéo.
Quand une boutique vend un jeu neuf, elle touche des cacahouètes — moins de 5€. Alors chez GameStop, ils ont appliqué une stratégie simple : vendre le moins de jeux neufs possible. Solution : forcer les clients à faire des préventes. Avantages ? Primo : on encaisse immédiatement quelques dollars, qui iront fructifier sur un compte en banque jusqu'à la sortie du jeu — yay pour Duke Nukem Forever. Secundo, comme le client a mis ses sous dans notre tirelire, on sait qu'il n'ira pas voir ailleurs. Tertio, et c'est le plus important quand on achète en volume, on peut commander le nombre exact de préventes sans craindre les disgracieux invendus sur les étagères.
C'est là que certains se demandent pourquoi je me casse les noisettes à vous parler de pratiques commerciales qui ont lieu de l'autre coté de l'Atlantique.
Comment forcer les gens à faire des réservations ? Simple. Si le client se pointe comme une fleur en s'attendant à trouver son bonheur sous blister, on l'envoie promener pour lui donner une leçon, même si le produit est en stock. On perd certes une vente, mais le presque-client aura retenu la leçon pour tous ses prochains achats. Et si un jeu n'a pas assez de préventes, il n'est tout simplement pas vendu dans le réseau de boutiques. Les préventes sont aussi encouragées en France, par exemple chez Game où l'on vous promet le dernier jeu à la mode pour 20€ - pourvu que vous vous rameniez avec une pelletée de disques à revendre. Ils seront rachetés en bons d'achat, parfois à un meilleur argus que si vous aviez demandé des euros. Votre prévente est placée, et vous contribuez à remplir le vrai trésor de guerre du magasin : le rayon des occasions.
Même en France, vous avez déjà remarqué que ces étagères sont mieux toujours mieux fournies que le neuf, non ? A l'heure où j'écris ces lignes, Smash Bros est repris chez les différentes enseignes pour 20€, revendu le double, et vendu à peine plus cher en neuf. La différence entre neuf et occase est parfois de moins de 5€, mais les reprises sont toujours au moins à moitié moins que le prix officiel. Ca, vous le savez déjà ; je le réécris juste ici pour que vous ayez bien conscience que 1) l'occase est la voie royale d'un boutiquier, 2) ledit boutiquier se fait des burnes en or massif. Et n'allez pas me dire que 5€ de différence représentent une économie substantielle justifiant d'avoir un CD rayé ou pas de manuel. N'oubliez pas que parfois, les Fnacs et autres hypermarchés font de gros destockages (plein de stocks sans réservations = plein de susceptibles invendus = bonnes affaires), et que plus généralement, les jeux vidéo se vendent dans suffisamment d'endroits différents pour que vous n'ayez pas à supporter les délires de certaines échoppes.
L'idée étant donc que vous achetez un jeu neuf avec vos "vieux" jeux, qui à son tour sera revendu pour des cacahouètes afin d'acheter un autre titre plus récent, et ainsi de suite. Afin de garantir que les nouvelles sorties vous donnent envie de poser une réservation, il faut faire mouiller les joueurs, il faut de la hype et des démos qui durent trois minutes montre en main - essayez celle de Quantum of Solace si vous ne me croyez pas. Pour ça, chacun sa solution : Micromania fait des critiques sur son propre site, et évidemment, pas une note sous la moyenne. Vous imaginez un magasin vous déconseillant d'acheter un jeu, vous ? GameStop a carrément acheté une feuille de chou, Game Informer, et propose à ses clients de s'y abonner. Vous imaginez l'indépendance du papelard, vous ? C'est un peu comme si Ubi Soft achetait jeuxvideo.com et que vous en attendiez toujours des critiques objectives, et, euh... non, rien, Hi-Media (une régie de pub, pour quels éditeurs de jeux ?) a racheté le site.
- mais raton, Micromania je les hais déjà et mon magasin local est tenu par des chimpanzés de laboratoire. Eh bien, vous avez lu toutes les aberrations en haut, genre forcer les réservations en notant les responsables régionaux, les directeurs de magasins et les vendeurs sur le nombre de réservations, tout en limitant les exemplaires sans préventes ? Ca va venir, et ça va donner des idées aux autres chaines.
- mais raton, mon Micromania est tenu par des gens adorables. Je vous comprends, c'est mon cas. Vécu : ScoreGames bouffé par Game. Quand c'est arrivé près de chez moi/vous, les vendeurs compétents ont fui pour créer leur propre boutique, souvent franchisée sous un autre réseau genre Ultima. Le Game est maintenant tenu par un argus prohibitif, les vendeurs sont des raclures de lavabo et j'ai fini par le boycotter. Le problème, c'est qu'en visitant d'autres Game un peu partout en France, le résultat était le même. Pensez à prendre les mails des gens compétents, il y a des chances qu'ils aillent voir ailleurs en sentant venir le mauvais coup.
Par Raton-Laveur le 03 octobre 2008, 16:06 - Jeux vidéo - Lien permanent
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Tut, tut, tut, c'est rétrodaté ça. Je refuse de croire que personne n'ait commenté depuis Vendredi.
Et "fut" ne prend d'accent qu'au subjonctif imparfait, ce qui n'est pas le temps de la première phrase de l'article. Tsss.
À quoi sert cette débauche de bling bling 2.0 si tu ne disposes pas d'outils de correction efficace ?
Et sinon, c'est une triste nouvelle pour le marché du jeux vidéo en France. Celui que je n'utilise plus depuis 1993...
Il y a eu un jeu qui traînait longtemps dans les rayons "Occasion" chez Game : Wartech (ou Senko no Rondo) il était vendu à 50€ avec boîtier à moitié pêté...
2 mois plus tard, je trouve une douzaines de boites neuves à 20€ à la braderie informatique
WTF !
Ah JV.COM et dire que je suis un membre actif de leurs forums. :p
"C'est à croire qu'ils nous encouragent à les abandonner pour tout acheter en téléchargement..."
Malheureusement je crois que tu peux enlever "acheter" dans la phrase!
« Pendant que nous accélérions notre développement européen ces dernières années, nous avons gardé un œil attentif sur les acteurs dont la passion du métier se mesure à la qualité de leurs magasins et au savoir-faire évident de leurs employés. Micromania est l’un de ces distributeurs », a déclaré R. Richard Fontaine, PDG de GameStop.
Sans commentaires ^^;;;;;
C'est sans doute le fait de ne pas connaître de gamers (sauf un ou deux, et j'ignore où ils trouvent leurs jeux), mais tous ceux qui achètent des jeux vidéo dans mon entourage passent soit par les grandes surfaces, soit par le net (notamment les occasions entre particuliers). La boutique de jeux vidéo subirait-elle le même sort que la petite épicerie ?
C'est marrant cet article. Le genre d'article qui fais réaliser ou l'on vit. Un lieu magique ou même un DockGames ne peut rester ouvert du faite du nombre trop réduit de joueurs dans le coin.
Micromania, ça fait plus de dix ans qu'il a disparu de la surface de la ville.
En tout cas, ce n'est pas fameux fameux comme nouvelle.
Tssstss, c'est quoi cet article du 3 alors qu'on est le 8? :P
En tous cas je continue à penser que le vrai marché de l'occasion lui se trouve sur des ssites internet type PriceMinister ou 2xMoinsCher, et pas dans ce genre de boutiques.
et lol @ jeuxvideo.com
J'ai passé trois excellents mois en tant que vendeur chez Micromania à refuser de vendre du Léa Passion, déconseiller la quasi totalité des sorties X360 / PS3 / Wii, mettre des Killer 7 et des Katamari en tête des rayons occaz, modifier le Top Micromania, faire des réducs de 5€ sur les jeux d'occasion parce que oui, on a le droit, et parce que la simple idée de vendre des jeux aussi cher me faisait saigner le cerveau.
J'ai aussi assisté à la disparition de notre rayon PC, parce que, hein, le jeu PC, ça ne vend pas.
Étrangement, ils n'ont pas souhaité me garder plus longtemps. De toute façon je commençais à déprimer moi, j'avais toujours pas réussi à vendre notre unique exemplaire de Raw Danger.
>Le journalisme vidéoludique dans sa plus belle forme
Tu es mauvaise langue, le journalisme videoludique est sur ce point strictement identique à tous les autres journalismes spécialisés ou pas... Si avec un copier/coller de dépêche de presse on peut remplir quelques pages on va pas en plus se faire chier à analyser le bullshit communicatif de l'entreprise concernée...
Ouf, je ne vais jamais à Micromania.
(à Caen, et je ne sais par quel miracle, on a encore sept boutiques en vie. A voir si elles sont en pleine forme financièrement. Surtout depuis l'arrivée en centre ville d'un Score Game.)
(brrr. Score Game.)
Meeerde c'est rétrodaté en effet. J'apprends à me servir de DotClear, hein.
Aer > Dock Games a été racheté depuis longtemps par Micromania.
Là où j'habite, certains magasins de JV se métamorphosent en magasins de dvd d'occasion pour survivre. Leurs jeux sont trop chers de toute façon.
Mais de toute façon, presque tous les vendeurs sont incompétents, c'est le métier qui veut ça. *mode troll
Je travaille par intermittence (également un sujet de discussion, mais passons) dans un Micromania, depuis presque un an, parce qu'il faut bien manger. Et j'ai également travaillé auparavant pour JV.com (non je ne cherche pas à couler mon existence). Je tiens juste à dire que ton article est très juste. Chaque responsable est noté, non par ses compétences réelles et parfois fictives, mais par son nombre de résas sur les gros titres du moments, et, désormais sur les fameuses extensions de garanties de 2 ans pour des consoles qui n'existeront plus à la fin de l'extension. Bref, un système de récompense relançant la machine dorée de l'occasion, qui s'applique également désormais aux vendeurs. Il faut en effet indiquer chaque soir au DR (Directeur Régional) les réservations par vendeur. Histoire que celui qui a des scrupules et préfère conseiller qu'obliger soit réprimandé et privé de prime sur l'intéressement. La modèle de Gamestop a déjà de bonnes bases sur lesquelles s'implanter. D'autant que concernant l'occasion, les magasins pratiquent la loi du "plus 2", c'est à dire rajouter deux euros sur chaque jeu par rapport au prix en machine. Sachant que ceux-ci sont effectivement repris la moitié du prix.... d'occasion. Par exemple Mario Kart DS d'occasion est à 35 euros contre 39 neuf.... Certes le fait de se faire une marge confortable dans le commerce n'est pas récent, mais de là à littéralement agir en tant que distributeur plutot qu'en tant de vendeur désireux de fidéliser sa clientèle par une démarche réellement commerciale est nouveau. D'autant que beaucoup de vendeurs sont effectivement complètement largués, ne sachant même pas quand doit paraître un jeu déjà sorti. Bref, sous couvert de la légitimité des magasins de jeux vidéo à conseiller, les grandes chaînes pratique un cycle de fidélisation assez peu honnête, faisant passer du profit à outrance pour de bonnes affaires.
Heureux de voir que mes courriers sont réutilisés dans tes articles. Même si je ne pensais que cela allait déboucher sur un truc aussi gros...
Raton> L'un dans l'autre, on se retrouve au même point. Pas de profit, pas de succursale.
Killy, bon sang. Les seuls articles intéressants de ce site.
Aer > "Les seuls articles intéressants de ce site." ... ?
L'argent, c'est sale.
Raton> Chacun son point de vue.
Aer > Killy écrit sous le même nom dans jv.com ?
Ecrivait, cela fait un moment qu'il a arrêté.
Travaillant moi-même pour le susmentionné site, je tiens à t'informer qu'il n'appartient plus à Gameloft depuis 2006, mais à Hi-Media, qui n'est pas éditeur de jeux. Voilà pour l'indépendance. On ne se prive d'ailleurs pas de tailler les jeux Ubi qui le méritent. Exemple : http://www.jeuxvideo.com/articles/0...
Concernant la news sur la DSi, tu n'as pas l'air d'avoir compris le sens du mot "rumeur". Ou plutôt tu fais semblant de ne pas comprendre car ça t'arrange, alors que tu as pourtant l'air de quelqu'un d'intelligent :p
La "source fiable" concernait évidemment l'existence d'une nouvelle console portable, qui a effectivement été avérée quelques heures plus tard. Tandis que les caractéristiques techniques supposées de la bête ont bien été rangées au rang de rumeurs. Bref, difficile de faire plus limpide me semble-t-il.
Cela dit sur le fond ton article est juste. Désolé pour cette légère digression corporatiste.
Ouah, les rebelles!
Ils ont osé mettre un 4/20 à un jeu de la série Lea!
Trop fort l'indépendance journalistique!
Respect!
JV.com, le site avec des testeurs cultivés, qui foutent 18/20 à Spore et osent écrire :
"Qui plus est, Spore est une expérience "globale", c'est un peu l'oeuvre d'art totale que visait Wagner à Bayreuth. "
Nan, mais les mecs, posez vos couilles sur la table et avouez que vous bossez pour le plus mauvais site de JV du web franco.
C'est de l'alimentaire, on vous pardonne hein.
Ah non, pas encore les couilles sur la table, après c'est bibi qui doit nettoyer.
Reste que comme dit par Axel les meilleurs occasions se trouvent sur le net, notamment parce que c'est des particuliers qui vendent à des particuliers.
( Et surtout quand tu va râler à ton vendeur, il te rembourse pas en bon d'achat, comme à la fnac par exemple)
"Ils ont osé mettre un 4/20 à un jeu de la série Lea!"
Il y a surtout un lecteur qui a mis 18.
Obvious fake is obvious.
L'avis du lecteur :
"Je l'ai acheté ce matin et franchement, c'est que du bonheur. Graphisme excellent, musique a vous couper le souffle et un gameplay mieux que le célèbre guitare héro. Je suis déjà entrain de préparé mon groupe de pop avec mes potes de mon lycée. Conclusion, très bon jeux ! ACHETEZ LE ! ou pas"
Je pense à du second degré. Pas assez de fautes pour que cela soit un true lycéen (surtout qu'un jeune ne dit pas "à couper le souffle"), mais trop pour que cela soit un mec du service marketing de chez Ubi.
J'ai trouvé cet article très intéressant (et puis j'ai pu découvrir les autres sur la vie d'un vendeur) j'ai appris pas mal de choses, je dormirai moins con ce soir!
Merci editotaku o/
Mais ces pratiques dont deja arrivées chez nous bien avant les rachats successifs. (course à la résa par exemple), donc ne paniquez pas, c'est deja la merde depuis un certain temps !
"C'est un peu comme si Ubi Soft achetait jeuxvideo.com et que vous en attendiez toujours des critiques objectives (...)".
L'objectivité de la presse n'a jamais existé.
C'est un concept vaseux destinés à conforter un certain lectorat dans l'idée qu'il se fait du journalisme.
Dans le cas présent, rédiger un article sur un jeu vidéo, c'est émettre une opinion, un avis, une idée ou un sentiment. De fait, il y a prise de position, donc subjectivité.
Et puis quitte à montrer du doigt les liens affichés entre jeuxvideo.com et certains industriels du jeu vidéo, autant le faire pour tous, y compris dans les méthodes et liens incestueux qui unissent le joyeux monde de la presse et les boîtes de jeu vidéo.
Ben j'admets qu'il m'arrive de ne pas être d'accord du tout avec les tests de JV.com, de trouver le site un brin chargé sur la page d'accueil et les forum pas vraiment top (même si j'y trouve des réponses parfois).
Après, il est impossible d'être reellement objectif, il y a toujours un petit quelque chose qui fait que. (Ex: ce que j'ai écrit sur MM9, je n'en dit que du bien, or je suis déjà un fan. J'ai donc attaque le jeu avec une note largement positive. Bon, après c'est pas mon métier hein ! J'en parle a l'arrache.)
La seule méthode viable pour un test de jv serais d'avoir en parallèle 2 ou 3 tests différents fait par 3 types de joueurs différents (un déjà fan si franchise, un neutre et un qui n'aime pas. Au moins chacun mettra l'accent sur des points différents.)
Le seul reproche que je puisse faire a JV.com est le Copy/Pasta massif entre les différentes plateformes. On se retrouve avec des remarques par toujours adaptées (genre clavier caca, ben suffit de brancher un pad et voila.)
Je voudrais juste répondre à Mdt, écoutes coco, tu dis qu'un lycéen n'est pas capable d'énoncer "à couper le souffle" et pourtant, dieu sait que beaucoup de jeune lycéen savent écrire, et acquiert rapidement une expression littéraire malgré tout poussée.
Je te dis cela en état de cause : j'ai 14ans, je rentre tout juste en seconde.
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Merci pour ce sujet intéressant.. quant à JV.com cela fait un moment que tout le monde sait ce qu'il sont capable...
stfu
Now.
Mdt, ok j'ai rien dit. Je viens de voir le commentaire, autant pour moi..
"Je l'ai acheté ce matin et franchement, c'est que du bonheur. Graphisme excellent, musique a vous couper le souffle et un gameplay mieux que le célèbre guitare héro. Je suis déjà entrain de préparé mon groupe de pop avec mes potes de mon lycée. Conclusion, très bon jeux ! ACHETEZ LE ! ou pas"
On notera quand même le "ou pas" de la fin heing *__*
PS: Il existe des lycéens avec une orthographe pas trop à chier. Comme moi.
Bon, ok, on les appelle les Irregular, mais quand même.
Quoi qu'il en soit Raton, j'avais jamais posté de comm's sur ton blog, me semble, mais sache que je suis un gros lecteur *__* même si tu t'en fous un peu, mais pas trop j'espère xD
Vous êtes gentil les jeunes, mais c'est moi qui corrige vos copies.
Je suis donc le mieux placé pour porter un jugement statistique sur le niveau général du lycéen moyen en français.
On évoque ici quelqu'un qui écrirait un commentaire sur JV.com, à propos d'un jeu Ubi Soft, de la série Léa, sur le thème "popstar".
Jv.com , Ubi Soft, Léa, popstar. C'est même plus le lycéen moyen là, mais plutôt la lycéenne dégénérée.
Euh, Nownow, autant pour toi accepté, je suppose.
Mais si tu essayais de nous dire que toi, tu sais écrire, ben c'est loupé. Au moins tu n'as pas de pointillés rouges.
Mdt : Oui, et je n'en doute pas le moins du monde =p
Comme je le disais on les appelle les Irregular xD
J'appelle aussi ça un effet la dégénérescence SMS ( comme dans Macross Frontier? *o* Oopas) et Skyblog, en faisant des mini statistiques ^^ .
Et puis, le Français reste quand même super chaud à écrire en réalité ! ( Bien écrire ) et j'irai pas jusqu'à dire que j'écris bien, mais j'essaye de mon mieux !
C'est l'intention qui compte après tout, un motivé ne peut aller que vers l'avant *__*
Et pour parler des tests de JV.com ( autant revenir à un sujet plus en rapport avec le topic ) les tests sont certes subjectifs, les tests sont certes aussi influencés par les pépettes que l'auteur pourrait se faire avec ( normal ) mais en tant néophyte, je dois dire que je lis les tests de JV.com quand j'ai trouvé un truc qui m'intéresse, et que ça m'aide !
Couplé avec des avis sur des forums spécialisés, d'autres tests ect... ça peut faire un bon truc, donc =p
Ceci dit, je me réfère à JV.com parce que je ne connais pas véritablement d'autres sites où chercher une info générale...
Je suis un néophyte N00b quoi, mais qui n'a pas besoin d'en savoir plus ^^
'ffectivement, je ne l'avais pas lu.
Hahaha que de debauche j'ai abandonné Scoregames et consort quand ils ont malheureusmeent arreté d'être passioné (jeux import neuf et occaz', vente de goodies manga/anime tournoi Magic dans le magasin ) bref c'est triste quand même, même republique est devenu infréquentable...
>> fait par 3 types de joueurs différents (un déjà fan si franchise, un neutre et un qui n'aime pas. Au moins chacun mettra l'accent sur des points différents.)
'tain, c'est fout ce que ça me rapelle comme truc cette phrase. Une histoire avec un monolithe, un mammifère poilu et une petite fille...
Ah voilà, c'est ici : http://www.frag-in-hell.net/frag/ms...
Obvious > Mise à jour ajoutée dans l'article, merci de l'info.
Accessoirement, j'ai reçu un mail d'un responsable régional de Micromania qui m'a (r)assuré que toute la hiérarchie actuelle reste en place et que GameStop n'a aucune raison de s'immiscer dans leurs méthodes - contrairement à Game qui avait retaillé ScoreGames qui perdait des sous au moment de son rachat.
Hin hin le frag. Ca remonte dit donc.
Bon bah, je vais rester à mon Ultima du coin :D
Il m'arrive de passer dans des Micromania... mais quand je vois qu'il n'y a toujours aucun rayon PC, je me barre.
Il semblerait que voir des gens sortir 10 secondes après être rentrés ne leur pose aucun problème, vu qu'aucun vendeur ne m'a interpellé pour me demander ce que je cherchais.
Heureusement, il reste la Fnac.
Ah... raton... j'aurais du temps pour poster que j'aurais posté un article semblable.
Pour ma part, j'ai arrêté progressivement les jeux vidéos pour me tourner vers les VN et les eroges divers (quelle évolution non ?)... les shops sur internet ont pour ma part eu tendance à mieux répondre à mes questions que Durand le vendeur de ma boutique de JV local...
Ah si, y'a bien un magasin de jeux vidéos indépendant pas loin de chez moi c'est vrai... en liquidation...
Pour ce qui est des jeunes et du français, le problème n'est pas toujours qu'il ne sache pas écrire... mais surtout qu'ils croient que sur internet, ben le clavier c'est lol alor jpe ècrir kom jve parce que de toute façon c'est pas comme si c'était digne d'intérêt non ?
(et c'est pas comme si il existait des correcteurs automatiques d'orthographe intégrés aux navigateurs maintenant...)
Et Mdt, tu corriges des copies de lycéen... mais moi, de par mon père, j'ai accès à des copies de master (Bac +5 pour ceux qui auraient oublié comment fonctionne notre cher système éducatif), et... c'est pas beaucoup mieux (fort heureusement, ils sont statistiquement bien moins nombreux).
Mais d'un autre côté lorsque ma prof de français (même si ça s'appelle "culture générale"...) m'a regardé avec des gros yeux lorsque j'ai prononcé le mot "paradigme", j'avais soudainement eu de gros doutes sur ses compétences... (je ne généralise pas... je suis suffisamment con [terme usé par mes camarades] pour en pas le faire)
"mais raton, Micromania je les hais déjà et mon magasin local est tenu par des chimpanzés de laboratoire. Eh bien, vous avez lu toutes les aberrations en haut, genre forcer les réservations en notant les responsables régionaux, les directeurs de magasins et les vendeurs sur le nombre de réservations, tout en limitant les exemplaires sans préventes ? Ca va venir, et ça va donner des idées aux autres chaines."
Pour avoir travaillé il y a quelques mois dans un Micromania (L'un des 5 de Nantes, lequel donc héhé ? ^_^), je peux même dire que c'est déja le cas pour toutes ces méthodes. On pousse les vendeurs à être des battants, à y aller vraiment pour que le client nous aime et nous achète tout et ... n'importe quoi en fait (Koh-Lanta & Intervilles DS, Lea Passion, snif...). De plus, dans la façon de faire et les techniques de ventes employées, c'est pas vraiment étonnant que Micromania cartonne et qu'ils se fassent racheter.
La chaine a pris l'esprit du "le jeu vidéo est d'abord un produit de consommation", on a pas vraiment de sélection. Si une grosse daube marche on la vend, c'est tout.
Chez MM on encourage malgré tout le franc-parler, du moment que l'on vende. on ne va pas aller dire au client "Lea Passion c'est de la merde", on va plutôt lui dire "Vous savez, il y a d'autres jeux bien mieux sur DS pour votre petite fille".
-> Tenez Madame, achetez lui Animal Crossing, vous serez tranquille pendant les 3 prochaines années ^_^
Après ma brève expérience, j'ai pour le coup fait le tour des principales boutiques de jeux de la ville pour voir la façon dont c'était agencé, leurs prix, leur variété de jeux, la connaissance et l'amabilité des vendeurs en les testant un peu, et ... y'a pas photo. A l'exception des toutes petites boutiques tenues par des passionnés, Micromania écrase les autres enseignes. Pour le coup, leur promo avec Marcus va d'ailleurs dans ce sens. Ils ont choisi un excellent représentant qui parle à tous, qui "popularise" la chose.
Eternal Games Nantes, je te regretterai toujours #_#
@Mereck:
Dans ce cas parlons de l'orthographe de mes anciens collègues. Au moins bac+4, la plupart bac+5 en ingénierie, et certains qui bossent depuis longtemps.
Pas aussi mauvais que ce qui me crève les yeux quand je lis une copie de lycéen (je connais pas mal de profs), mais au moins une faute tous les dix mots. Et je ne parle pas de nos écrits internes, hein, mais bien de ce qui doit être lu sans modification par les clients, voire les utilisateurs finaux ou les agences de presse...
> C'est un peu comme si Ubi Soft achetait jeuxvideo.com et que vous en attendiez toujours des critiques objectives
...ou comme si Ankama se payait NoLife? ('^ . ^)
Ne cherchez pas trop pour l'orthographe et la syntaxe: on écrit tous comme des merdes. Evolution de la société car le collège unique est passé sur nous. Il a amené de très bonnes choses mais il a aussi baissé les exigences en formulation française (par un mécanisme ultra-compliqué). Tant pis hein. De toute façon les journaux sont quasi tous bourrés de fautes, sans parler des pubs affichées en ville type "Mangé du pain pour votre santer" ...
On arrive à un point où les correcteurs sont rares, donc les fautes plus fréquentes. Et ceux qui arrivent sont pires...
Ouais, et puis, tout fout l'camp, c'étais mieux avant et les jeunes apprennent plus rien.
heu... arrètez moi si je me trompe, mais pour les sources très fiables de jeuxvidéo.com, "deux écrans tactiles au lieu d'un" c'est par rapport a l'ancienne qui avait deux écrans certes mais un seul était tactile non?
finalement pas la peine d'en faire une image gag, même si la forme peut prêter a sourire.
Euh, coyoti, quelle ville ? Quels journaux ? Surtout que ne pas savoir écrire beaucoup de mots, et ne pas faire la différence entre un adjectif, un verbe et un nom, ce n'est pas le même niveau d'illettrisme.
Enfin, il est vrai que l'orthographe va vers sa propre disparition, j'écris moi-même bien plus mal qu'à mes années lycée. Et encore, merci les correcteurs d'orthographe intégrés partout. Bref, ça fout le camp, c'est un fait. Mais ça a des conséquences, lire est passablement plus compliqué que ça ne l'était il y a quelques années.
Bon même si je postes pas souvent, je ne dirais qu'une chose, excellent article.
Ca fait plaisir de voir qu'après tout ce temps, tu n'as toujours pas perdu la main :)
"tout ce temps" ? Hey c'est bon, moins d'une semaine les mecs.
Thelvin: villes : Rennes, Paris, Orléans, Tours, Beauvais, aéroport CDG... Journaux: Ouest-France, l'Equipe, Libération, Le Point, L'Express... La liste est sans fin.
Mais attention, je ne prône pas un élitisme orthographique. Simplement, je vois des fautes partout, tout le temps, car mon métier c'est de les repérer.
Etsilihin: c'est vrai que ma dernière phrase est à chier ^^ ça fait très vieux con. Merci de me le renvoyer dans les dents, je l'ai mérité.
Hmm étrange coincidence j'étais chez Micromania la semaine dernière pour acheter un Force Unleashed, le jeu qui devrait à mon avis pas être trop dur à trouver. Je questionne le vendeur il me dit qu'ils n'ont plus d'exemplaires en stock, je rétorque que "ca y est, à peine on vous rachète et ça part en sucette", le gus a souris sans plus. Maintenant je me tourne des théories de la conspiration dans ma tête, c'est malin.
Pour ce qui est de l'indépendance, ça peut exister même si effectivement en principe quand un éditeur mets des billes dans un canard c'est pas pour entendre du mal de ses jeux. Il me semblait par contre que c'était un peu passé de mode les opérations "gros sabots" de ce genre et que maintenant on fait plutôt appelle à "l'autocensure sensible des journalistes" genre "Bon Roger tu m'écris 2 pages sur ce jeu dont l'éditeur a passé 5 pages de pubs dans notre Canard, j'ai bien dit 5 pag euh 2 pages".
hormis 2xmoinscher et priceminister, y a t il des sites de JV d'okkaz par particuliers ? mais sans intermédiaire, paske les commissions des deux sites sus-nommés, merci bien !
Bon sang ça fait longtemps que j'avais pas posté ici moi...
Article très très intéressant, et qui n'est pas de nature à me rassurer alors que mon fournisseur autrefois régulier et plus occasionnel aujourd'hui est Dock Games, racheté par Micromania avant que Gamestop ne vienne pointer le bout de son nez.
Qu'est-ce que tu disais sur Push déjà ? Ah oui, "futur de merde".
"hormis 2xmoinscher et priceminister, y a t il des sites de JV d'okkaz par particuliers ? mais sans intermédiaire, paske les commissions des deux sites sus-nommés, merci bien !"
=> Y'a Amazon, Alapage et Ebay mais y'a des commissions, et Bon Coin sans commissions.
Sinon, ayant bossé comme vendeur de jeux vidéo, mais dans un magasin indépendant pas dans une chaîne, j'aimerais éclaircir un point. Vendre des jeux neufs ne suffit pas à survivre, la marge est trop faible. Vendre des jeux d'occasion, ça ne sert pas à se faire des "couilles en or", comme il est dit dans l'article, mais juste à pouvoir manger.
Donc oui l'occasion est mise en avant car c'est le nerf de la guerre dans le jeu vidéo. Sans un bon rayon occasion, pas de sous sous. C'est d'ailleurs aussi pourquoi beaucoup de magasins proposent des rachats intéressants, histoire de faire venir la clientèle. Donc peut-être le jeu est un peu cher mais quand vous le revendez vous vous y retrouvez.
Dans les bons magasins, les jeux d'okkaz' sont toujours au moins 10€ moins chers que le neuf, complets et en bon état. Si ce n'est pas le cas, changez de crèmerie.
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